The following messages were posted between 01/01/2002 and 07/31/2002.
Date:
07/31/02 21:10:34 PDT
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Mazda - Is ATV worth checking out? I'm only familiar with them through The Chameleons UK covering "Splitting In Two." And speaking of The Chameleons, they're playing in the US in a few months... I've already bought my ticket for the Atlanta show. Woohoo!
-Raul
Date:
07/31/02 10:01:30 PDT
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I also produced the Fall and I can categorically state that the Fall did not figure as a direct influence. The band and I never discussed the stuff I did with the Fall, ATV or any other band for that matter. I also employed very different production methods for WOV.
Date:
07/31/02 05:41:27 PDT
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The krautrock influence is doubtful ,but Marc once told me that he was a huge fan of The Fall. I don't know how they may have influenced his playing though. He also told me that his mom took him and Bruce to see a Hendrix concert ,who definitely made an impression. - Bobby
Date:
07/30/02 11:51:22 PDT
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Christopher - There exist MIDI files of "On Interstate 15" and "Red Light." You can find them at http://www.geocities.com/vieuxdo/nterst15.mid and http://www.geocities.com/vieuxdo/red.mid
Hope that helps. Anyone know of any more?
-Raul
Date:
07/30/02 07:29:48 PDT
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1 Krautrock = German bands such as Kraftwerk, Can and Tangerine Dream...it comes from the irreverent British slang for a German - Sauerkraut Lovers all apparently.
2 Museums = Those are not the correct lyrics. I produced the original demos. There were vocal versions featuring Marc, John Parish and myself from those sessions. I will try to post my version of the correct lyrics later but I don't remember singing some of the versions posted on the site.
3 Raul - thanks for jogging my memory with regard to the Devo connection. Stan was in touch with Jim who used to furnish use with tips and non factory pre sets for the Jupiter 8 hence the Devo connection. The Jupiter was probably the most used synth on Call of the West
Mazda
Date:
07/30/02 02:54:17 PDT
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Anyone know of keyboard & guitar MIDI files (or sheet music) for WoV?
Tanks,
christopher (rasputin@teleport.com)
Date:
07/29/02 17:39:49 PDT
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That's someone's interpretation by ear, which may or may not be correct. I just want confirmation of what the actual lyrics truly are, and the fanclub stuff seems to be the best source for that.
-Raul
Date:
07/29/02 17:12:42 PDT
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Silly me.... O thought the lyrics to Museam were:
Museums
Here tommorrow at the museums
We'll see the light the creative way
We'll see the way that man once lived
And bring some mystery to our love again
Why don't you want to meet me anymore
In museums full of culture
Anthropologists are waiting at the door
To see your face when you walkin'
When you're walking through museums
Still life at museums
Still life
Still life at museums
Still life
Still
See the Rex's
When they hear the time
Bright lights flashing
Keep your arms in line
We'll wander through the bones alone
Capture the beliefs of another god's world
In museums full of teachers on their fieldtrips
Or so they say
At museums we can meet once more
And believe our lies
In museums
Still life at museums
Still life
Still life at museums
Still life
Still life at museums
Still life
Still
See the hexes, the foreigners
See the rights of the tribe that still lives
At museums we can see so much more
Day tomorrow ask to see the african
Day tomorrow cultural they assure me
Day tomorrow cultural they assure me at museums
Still life at museums
Still life
Still life at museums
Still life
Still life at museums
Still life
CREDITS
Written by: M. Moreland
Published by: Music Corporation Of America/Skeek Music (BMI)
Lyrics From: By Ear
which were right on this site... two clicks away....
Date:
07/29/02 12:56:16 PDT
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Pantherboy - THANK YOU. One of the great mysteries of my life will soon be solved! :D
If you wanted to get all the packet stuff onto a computer, you'd need a scanner. Scanners can make graphic files of the pages, and they can also look over the pages with text and figure out what the words are, then create a fairly accurate text document.
-Raul
Date:
07/29/02 12:19:58 PDT
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Me again (the 'fan club' guy) -
I dug it up this weekend and was surprised at all the stuff in there. A "Sammystown' poster, a bumpersticker, copies of fliers (one on a bill with Guns & Roses!!), a programme from some hoity-toity gig in CA, and, yes, a packet of lyrics typewritten on 8 1/2 x 11 sheets. I'm a computer idiot, so I'm not sure how to post the stuff. Oh, I also got a handwritten note from the fan club president (whose name escapes me right now). Cool stuff. I'd be happy to post the lyrics to "Museums" even if I have to type it on here myself. I'll dig it up when I get the time.
Toby -
Yeah, that Sparks stuff with David is some of their best. The Gleaming Spires didn't do much for me back in the day, so maybe I need to dig those records back up again. I highly recommend Sparks material though (yeah, and DEVO too...).
Pantherboy
Date:
07/28/02 09:41:58 PDT
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Toby here -
Dave Kendrick continues to play with Andy. He has played all through the White Trash years and at his last show as well. He did not play the first show because of a family crisis. Dave is a really cool guy as are his wife and young son. He also played with Sparks and in a band called The Gleaming Spires, who had a weird one hit wonder with "Are You Ready For The Sex Girls?" which was featured in Revenge Of The Nerds 1. They had a really great song called Christian Girls Problem, that was used by Greg Dark in the trailer to Devil In Miss Jones 3 & 4. Dave also did some soundtrack work for Greg as well. The album that is on, Walk On Well Lit Streets is really goods and really hard to find. I was looking for ten years... and finally scooped a copy on the net.
Date:
07/28/02 04:05:55 PDT
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Are you kidding? DAVID KENDRICK has been playing drums for ANDY for years. Including the WHITE TRASH WINS LOTTO shows. ANDY played a show the other day. TOBY, Was DAVID on drums that night??
I. TATTOO
Date:
07/28/02 00:05:17 PDT
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Wall Of Voodoo were visionary. Their music only seems to resonate more & more when as the years go by. I found WOV in my sophomore year in high school in Houston. They were the unlikely nexus of the new electronic sound, and the twangy C&W sound from spaghetti western soundtracks. And with all that rackety percussion? Truly inspired.
Date:
07/27/02 18:43:01 PDT
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Great stuff from Mazda. I fucking THRIVE on that kind of info.
Please get the site back up! I'll make a donation!
NZ
Date:
07/27/02 18:33:49 PDT
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Mazda - Bob Mothersbaugh was the guitarist for DEVO, and Jim Mothersbaugh was the one that worked (works?) at Roland. Jim also played drums for them for a while prior to their record deal. WoV connection - David Kendrick, who drummed for DEVO on their late '80s albums, was supposedly seen playing with Andy around 1997.
-Raul
Date:
07/27/02 13:04:35 PDT
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Can anyone read Norwegian? I went to read that DOC review and couldn't understand a gosh darn thing.
Date:
07/27/02 09:37:27 PDT
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KRAUTROCK?
Date:
07/27/02 08:21:19 PDT
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Dear Anton
Guru of Sound?!!!! Hey that's mighty kind of ya fella. I think that the influence of Devo through the friendship with Bob Mothersbaugh [brother of Mark and boffinhead at Roland back in the day was probably stronger, is that his name?] than Kraftwerk. But the primary influence was Morricone with dinosuars, devil dogs and creepy skeletons far more important than the early German techno bands. I don't recall having one conversation with any of the Voodoo about Krautrock. We just used synth's and drum machines because they were generally cheesy sounding and never really analysed it all. Machines used included my silly toy Casio, on 'They Don't Want Me', [remember them? The ones that you could buy at K Mart for what would now be $10]. The other primary instruments included the Ace drum machine [from the '50's/60's],the Roland 808 [main rythmn on 'Mex Rad']
Oberheim sequencer [the crazy sound on 'Radio'],Jupiter 8, Mini Moog [usually the bass parts played by Chas], Marc's Flying V, Joe's Pots and Pans and very occasionally the creepy Clave played by yours truly.
Hoping to get my site back up by the way....silly me didn't pay the bill!
Mazda
Date:
07/26/02 20:21:16 PDT
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Judy,
It is on my right arm. Why?
I. TATTOO
Date:
07/26/02 18:24:49 PDT
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To the guy with the fanclub stuff - does this mean you have lyrics from Seven Days In Sammystown? POST THEM! PLEASE! Or at least the lyrics to "Museums"... it's my absolute favorite song and I don't even know what some of the words are! :X
-Raul
Date:
07/26/02 15:07:18 PDT
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very good t.
Date:
07/26/02 11:26:30 PDT
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Toby here -
NO CASH.... NO CASH!!!!!!!
just good vibes.....
Date:
07/26/02 05:43:17 PDT
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Hey Toby, thanks for sharing some of your Wall of Voodoo and other related files with the crew here. That is extremely cool of you. I would be more than happy to send money your way for a CD or two.
All these rare bootlegs and demos you have aquired and made available to the masses very generous. I'd go so far as to send a little cash to see more rare gems appearing at your site just to save you the hassle of snail mail.
Oh and if I can make a "request" for next time (fingers crossed, knocking on wood whilst praying) I would like to see West Side Of Sammystone or something in the same vein.
Date:
07/26/02 04:17:00 PDT
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ohh, you have a tattoo of an iguana? um, where is it at?
Judy
Date:
07/25/02 20:18:25 PDT
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Judy, the I. stands for IGUANA.
I. TATTOO
Date:
07/25/02 19:41:14 PDT
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I am really sorry to hear about Marc...it is a great loss to music!.Since hearing about this I have been trying to get CD's of Wall of Voodoo from 'Sanity Records'but they are not able to get them in!!!could you email me on- blue_eyed_zingaro@yahoo.com I am an Australian resident..Please let me know how I can obtain CD's I went twice to see Wall of Voodoo when they played Sydney...FANTASTIC!!!!
Date:
07/25/02 18:10:44 PDT
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i tell you, there is some deifinite negativity going on at this site as of late.. used to be about the band, stories, and what not, which makes this site one of my favourites along with EVERYONE from around the world who visits this.
i would like to know what KR has to say about this since he appears to be the focal point of so much bashing?
decay
Date:
07/25/02 17:34:32 PDT
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fanclub stuff?!? Come on man, kick down.... share and share a like.....
Date:
07/25/02 16:41:50 PDT
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Speaking of Bob's post about a newsletter, I was wise enough to get myself into the WOV fanclub in the Sammystown days, and got a huge packet in the mail with tons of goodies (song lyrics, photos, bio, etc). Anyone else seen that?.
Date:
07/25/02 11:36:42 PDT
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About bad ebay-ers. One tactic i've heard that can put the fear of god into a bad ebay seller is to find out what county they live in and call up the local sheriff and explain the problem. If the sheriff is friendly, they will sometimes call or even go out to the seller's home and explain how much they would appreciate them fufilling their obligation to you. After a call or visit from the sheriff, you can bet the ebay seller will be more than eager to follow through with sending you the stuff you paid for.
Good luck.
Date:
07/25/02 11:19:54 PDT
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Toby here -
Interesting question about the supposed Morricone meeting... I'll try to find out.
As far as bootlegs go, King Richard has been doing trading for years, which means that he got his stuff from other places, which means that there are other people out there with the stuff he has. He got a ton of stuff from me and I got a ton from him. So to say that it's not out there is just wrong. Also, everytime someone brings up live recordings, I try to throw my 2¢ in and offer up whatever I have for a trade, and I have gotten about three takers on that offer... so you guys are just not looking hard enough. Anything 80's Thing is selling on Ebay I have, so if you don't feel like putting up with his antics..... email me.... for free....
tobydammit@earthlink.net
Date:
07/25/02 06:50:51 PDT
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A comment and a question: I have dealt with King Richard (if he indeed is 80'sThing) on ebay. Yes ,I had to wait an abnormally long time to get the goods. Yes, I got pissed off(I was one of the people bitching in earlier posts) . Yes, he made lots of excuses (some bizarre)for not sending me the cd's quickly.......BUT, he did come through in the end and even threw in extras to make amends. Rich is just kinda lax in his business dealings but not a crook . He's sorta lazy like most of us but essentially a benign personality. You just have to remember you're not dealing with a legit business. He sells BOOTLEGS, -but he's the only one offering us this rare WOV stuff. I didn't know most of this stuff even existed before he started listing it. So , he is performing a service for us fans and since most of the stuff on Ebay is only going for $10 or $15 ,he ain't getting wealthy off of it. You guys would sh#t yourselves if you knew some of the tapes he's sitting on. Now ,for my question: in 1986 ,I received a one - off WOV newsletter(never got another). It mentioned that on tour in Italy(Andy- era) , WOV had a meeting with the great Ennio Morricone (if you don't know who he is and his influence on WOV , go choke yourself, HARD! & RIGHT NOW!). Did this really occur? Any details? Bob
Date:
07/25/02 05:11:16 PDT
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A great guitarmaster and musician has passed away.
I didn't know how much I missed him before I heard his last records with Department of Crooks and his solo album.
It was just so great.
Serach for the 10/10 review of DoC-album at the Norwegian rocksite www.rockeweb.com
Date:
07/24/02 14:44:17 PDT
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Toby here -
Hey Sheldon... email me if you want any help with anything. I can host that mp3 for you too if you so desire....
tobydammit@earthlink.net
maybe we could do a trade....
Date:
07/24/02 14:38:38 PDT
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Hey Sheldon -
Love your work with Marc. I was blessed (?) to find a copy of the cd in a local shop for $3 last Spring (and , of course, would have happily paid 10 times that for a copy). Funny how another person's ignorance can lead to our fortune. Anyhoo, I still play WOV and DOC on my radio show, and the first 3 WOV albums remain enduring favorites. BIG WET KISSES to the kind folks who tacked that live show on the end of the 1st ep. "End Of An Era" just rules!! Here's a link for the curious: http://www.stormpages.com/mcrx/
Pantherboy
Date:
07/24/02 12:32:24 PDT
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Sheldon here,
I love reading such drama. Its been a good laugh. Utopia this is not. So, this type of stuff is going to come up now and then. Can't we all just get along. HA HA...whew....I think I wet my pants on that one.
OK sorry, on to why I've popped up. I do have DOC stuff. I'm really bad at getting around to stuff but I'm going to convert the song "lucky 2 dollor bill" to an MP3. I just need to know where to post it or send it. Toodles
Date:
07/24/02 00:26:20 PDT
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Anton from Moscow here.
I haven't heard the answer about the influence of Kraftwerk on WOV's keyboard arrangements. Maybe mr. Mazda would be so kind to explain as a guru of sound? ;)
Date:
07/23/02 18:18:21 PDT
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Hey TATTOO! What does the I. stand for in I. TATTOO?
Just wondering.
Judy
Date:
07/23/02 16:29:29 PDT
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Does anyone have a good pic of Marc at the US Festival, (The Last-Ever WOV Mach I gig) with that killer poncho? I would love to add it to the tribute.
Please e-mail me, I will give full credit for the pic:
napalmzappa@astound.net
NZ
Date:
07/23/02 14:23:17 PDT
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i have many c.d. of Wall Of Voodoo:
live Hamburg, live Rome, live Florence etc.
Date:
07/22/02 18:41:31 PDT
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I bring this up from time to time, and have not yet been successful, so here it is again. If anyone here talks to Sheldon, please ask him if he would consider releasing the unreleased Department of Crooks stuff for us to download. The unreleased stuff I'm referring to is not the porn sountrack they did, but several songs that did not make it on their album, one of which was named, "Lucky three dollar bill," if I remember correctly.
Thanks....
Date:
07/21/02 07:22:55 PDT
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I don't know any of the members personally. I don't live in CA. But I have been a fan since Call Of The West. I like the Stan era Voodoo best, but Andy's solo stuff is great. IMO, it's better than his material he did with Voodoo.
Date:
07/21/02 05:35:24 PDT
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oh yeah,Toby. Hearing it with the moans would be ok. There needs to be a song made that way. Think of STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN with a moan track. Hmmm.
Mike
Date:
07/21/02 01:34:39 PDT
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Toby here -
Truth be told, I can't find the cd withthe Dept of Crooks stuff on it. I do still have the DAT original though... And Sheldon O.K.'d it already... it's just finding that damn cd!!!
no Cutting Class soundtrack either.
I am in Cali... why won't I be?!?
Don't have the demo... it's just in the movie, I will attempt to extract it, but it will come with the moan track as well...
Toby out, dammit!!!
Date:
07/20/02 23:25:11 PDT
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Hey Toby, I don't suppose you could make MP3's of the Department of Crooks stuff that they did for your video (if Sheldon is okay with it)? And hey if you have the Moreland Brothers demo that you mentioned, I'd love to hear that too....
BTW, are you in CA? Is everyone here? It seems that everyone here knows members of Wall of Voodoo personally except me, way down here in the South...
Date:
07/20/02 13:14:22 PDT
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Whoops! forgot. JD in Hotlanta, how was the Concrete Blonde show? Did she look like MAMA CASS?
Mike
Date:
07/20/02 04:00:46 PDT
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GOD, IT DOES LOOK LIKE MAMA CASS.She's Alive. ALIVE!
Date:
07/20/02 01:07:49 PDT
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looks more like Mama Cass!!
Date:
07/19/02 20:28:07 PDT
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CONCRETE BLONDE'S MISS JOHNETTE NAPOLITANO
This last Wensday July 10th in Tennessee. Great show but she was wasted pretty much. She went into detail about what the song TOMORROW WENDY was about. No PRETTY & TWISTED material this show.
Date:
07/19/02 16:10:14 PDT
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Toby here -
Yeah... um o.k. I guess I left a couple out. The Bruce one was called Areobisex Girls and had Bruce being "pleasured" as he sang Ring Of Fire on a really bad acoustic guitar. Again Rinse Dream was involved with that, although he didn't directed it. Joe Robertson (or Adele Robbins as he was known in porn) directed it, he also produced Dr. Caligari. So the ties go deep. Bruce had a little bit of a problem in that. Aparently he was working on the crew and was thrown in at the last minute.
As far as Andy goes... I would have no idea about that one. I know there was one film with a guy doing a non-sex cameo that looked very much like Andy and his then girlfriend Rita with a black wig on. The movie was called Elegant's Angels and was directed by... um.... the guy named..... Toby Dammit....... I think that the second installment of that had music exclusively by Department of Crooks. Yeah it did.... I'm sure I read that somewhere on the world wide web......
Then there was the recently unearthed Untamed Cowgirls of The Wild West directed by Rinse Dream that has a Marc and Bruce demo in it. It was when Marc was in France so probably Bruce passed it along. It has been confirmed to be a Moreland Bros demo.
I try and think any more porn/Voodoo connections.
O.K. I thought of one more... but this one is just the director stealing the song and throwing it in for a few minutes. Again that dastardly devil Toby Dammit. Cousin Bubba's Country Corn Porn. Johnny Legend wrote the theme song which was a reworded copy of The South Is Gonna Rise Again, which was the theme to 2000 Maniacs the gore film from the 60's. Johnny had recorded a cover of that and just stripped the vocals and put in new words for Cousin Bubba. Then Toby introduces the tape and starts walking with the camera following him. And he put in Dance You Fuckers over him walking around Hollywood. I was told that once Toby was showing Andy this tape and Johnny Legend was there too and he forgot that Dance You Fuckers was in there. So he's sitting with the guy who wrote the theme song and then the guys who's stuff he stole was sitting there too. Kind of a Zen moment..... or so I've been told!
Date:
07/19/02 04:24:36 PDT
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Didn't Andy show up in one as a pimp?
Date:
07/19/02 04:01:10 PDT
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Hey Toby...didn't you leave off another porn that has an um, special appearance by Bruce Moreland?
Date:
07/18/02 20:37:28 PDT
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Thanks TOBY. You are THE MAN!
I. TATTOO
Date:
07/18/02 18:09:43 PDT
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i'm crushed by the news of Marc's Death. Praise him for such inspiring guitar art. Miss YA Amigo
Hasta Siempre
David Spero Peligro
www.weirdsound.com
Date:
07/18/02 13:39:16 PDT
Comments:
Toby,
Oooh Eye Protection stuff... cool beans !!
Withdrawl has become happy intoxicated hang-over.
Many thanks to you good sir.
Date:
07/18/02 09:10:23 PDT
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Toby here -
The porno directors name was Rinse Dream which was Steve Saydian in the real world. The same guy who co-dorected the Mexican Radio video and the covers for Call Of The West and Happy Planet along with the video for Do It Again. Which is one of the strangest videos ever!! The movie was Nightdreams and they used Ring Of Fire in a three way lesbian scene. According to Marc, he just used it without asking them. They didn't have a problem with but, they would have liked him to ask. He returned the favor with the video. Bruce and Marc worked on the crew of his last r-rated feature called Dr. Caligari. His other porn film of note is Cafe Flesh, which is sort of anti-porn. It's really disturbing and features scream queen Michelle Bauer going as Pia Snow in the lead role. She claims that a body double was used for the hardcore, but people who were there say that she did it all. Still worth the price of admission. There is a Cafe Flesh 2 not directed by Dream and a couple sequels to Nightdreams, but look for the original. Really bizarre stuff.
Date:
07/18/02 05:07:48 PDT
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I had once heard them claim that they did the music to MOTEL HELL but it didn't get used & that it was the instrumental breaks inbetween the songs on the E.P. As for the porno deal, listen to the interview with Mr. Toby Dammit that he has put up. He gives some directors name. Toby? A little help here?
I. TATTOO
Date:
07/18/02 04:19:52 PDT
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Keyboards and percussion in EXERCISE sound (not the music itself but the sound) extremely like in the Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" ('74).
Renaldo and the Loaf are nice, but not nicer than these Residents ingenious guys. :))
Anton
Date:
07/17/02 22:34:32 PDT
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Did WOV do a soundtrack for a porno film back in their early days? And , if so, anyone know the name of it and if it is available for purchase? DonnieDarko
Date:
07/17/02 21:50:47 PDT
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R & L are one of the most psychotic & strange of all Bands. They were good buddies w/ The Residents & the whole Ralph Records bunch, and you can D/L one of their weirdest tracks at my site. The stuff is quite difficult to find.
Here You Go
http://www.tangento.iwarp.com/downloads.html
(my "Downloads" Page)
NZ
Date:
07/17/02 21:39:51 PDT
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hey K.R.
drop me an e-mail regarding our trade,I don't think mine are going thru.
thanks,
alex
Date:
07/17/02 19:08:07 PDT
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Renaldo & the LOAF? ok, fill those of us in on this one. I know STANARD was in The Flesheaters for a bit, but I didn't know about this.
So you got my attention NZ.
START TALKING!
I. TATTOO
Date:
07/17/02 17:35:23 PDT
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Renaldo & the LOAF!
Oh this is Grand. They are a personal favorite, but I hadn't expected to see their name here. Do you like The Residents, too?
NZ
Date:
07/17/02 16:15:46 PDT
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My dad just got me interested in Wall of Voodoo (my mom says I just like it to spite her, but I've had a history of liking odd bands like Renaldo and the Loaf).
Ah, the speedy percussion, the disturbing lyrics, and Stanard's (when he was younger) eery sexiness...
Date:
07/17/02 14:57:40 PDT
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Is there a conflict between King Rich and the rest of you? Maybe I have been focusing too much on the Marc posts.
What gives?
NZ
Date:
07/17/02 05:35:54 PDT
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oh, almost forgot. The idea that it will one day be done gives hope. Just the opening page is up right now, but bookmark it! ANDYPRIEBOY.COM is on the web! Go see it.click here The Future? who knows with the site but it does have a cool slideshow of Andy.
I. TATTOO
Date:
07/17/02 05:25:59 PDT
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yeah, that celtic frost cover gave me nightmares for a good week. There was another one but I can't remember who did it. I think that in itself tells how good it was.
I. TATTOO
Date:
07/17/02 04:27:12 PDT
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Also remember a Wov cover by Celtic Frost, a swiss death metal band.
Date:
07/16/02 19:51:18 PDT
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Hey, I remember the el vez thing. Not so bad.
Mike
Date:
07/16/02 17:20:21 PDT
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Has anyone heard the cover of MEXICAN RADIO done by EL VEZ,the mexican elvis?
I. TATTOO
Date:
07/16/02 12:08:03 PDT
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Toby here -
#6 has to do with internal conflict within (and without) the band and I will leave it at that.
Date:
07/16/02 11:00:06 PDT
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FYI
80things=King Richard = K.R.
http://www.angelfire.com/hi/kingofeightiesmusic/
People who previously complained about him must know.
Rambozo the clown
Date:
07/15/02 22:16:29 PDT
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Three of the members do perform as backing vocals on Andy's first solo album, but the others do appear as playing instruments. I'd give what parts they played on the album, but my CD and record are about a couple hundred miles away.
C.H.U.D. II didn't have a soundtrack, I've checked around. Though, despite the fact it was a really bad movie, I was surprised to find out that Guys Like Girls wasn't the only unreleased song on there. There's a solo Andy song called I'm a Hungry Man, and another Wall of Voodoo unreleased song. I'll try to record them off the movie. I can't guarantee their quality, or the fact you'll hear the music.
Anyone know if Wall of Voodoo actually appeared in the movie? One of the songs looks to be performed by the band playing, but in the credits it's attributed to Wall of Voodoo.
Nick
Date:
07/15/02 20:46:33 PDT
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I respect your decision to do what you will with "# 6," but I wish you would reconsider...or at the very least give us SOME idea of what it's about (i.e. just mention the subject it pertains to...such as internal conflict within the band and leave it at that).
Thanks...
Date:
07/15/02 10:07:58 PDT
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wow, I never noticed that about TENSION & MODEL. It does sound like it. But I don't see the tie-in with EXERCISE.
I. TATTOO
Date:
07/15/02 00:35:26 PDT
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Anton here-
Listening to the first WOV EP (and the song Exercise from COTW) I found that keyboards sound pretty much like the german band Kraftwerk. So the question to mr.Gray - was there some influence or is it just a coincidence?
And funny thing - the keyboard line from Full of Tension also remindes me of the Kraftwerk song "The Model".
Date:
07/14/02 20:40:30 PDT
Comments:
Toby here -
The album cover that was scrapped was a landscape of a sunset. Andy's concern was that it looked o.k. but when it got shrunk down in ads it would get muddy and uninteligable that small. The problem was that it was already paid for and they had a really small budget for that album... which is why there are no linear notes, and that is an album that really needed them.
I don't think there was a soundtrack for CHUD II. Those have never been on an album of any kind.
Lets leave #6 lie... no need in stirring up stuff.
Chas didn't play on the solo album and only three of the eye protection guys did backing vocals.... just a minor point....
White Trash is being shopped on the shores on London's west end. So if it gets picked up and produced there will be a cast album, but it will be with totally new people playing all the parts....
Date:
07/14/02 16:37:05 PDT
Comments:
Now I am going to have to look for the CHUD soundtrack now. Pawn shops her I come.
I. TATTOO
Date:
07/14/02 15:25:22 PDT
Comments:
Toby, is it any more appropriate at this time to repost #6 of the interview?
Date:
07/14/02 14:51:26 PDT
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Just an interesting note about Andy's first solo album, if you look at the performers, Marc, Ned, and, I think, Chas all appear on the album. I haven't heard the songs on either C.H.U.D. II or Cutting Class, but they could be the same as the album. C.H.U.D. II's at a local video store, I'll have to rent it. Though, what's also kind of interesting is that all the members of Eye Protection appear on the album as well.
Nick
Date:
07/14/02 12:32:15 PDT
Comments:
"If you must flame, sign your name! " F.U. COPELAND ! and ALL your Frat buddy lackeys- Jay Boberg ,Carlos Grasso ,your idiot brothers and the rest of their ilk.
Date:
07/14/02 07:08:39 PDT
Comments:
Does ANDY plan on releasing anything of the WHITE TRASH WINS LOTTO soundtrack?
Date:
07/14/02 06:15:50 PDT
Comments:
If you must flame, sign your name!
Date:
07/13/02 14:59:02 PDT
Comments:
Just a wish list here, but the band should get back together in some sort. It's what they were born to do.
Andy could retrun, so could stan for that matter, but I don't think stan could do the later stuff that andy did. Sorry stan.
Chas could return, Bill could return, Bruce could return.
No one could replace Marc or Joe to equal but there are some great guiter players and drumers out there to stand in.
I'm not sure if Ned would return from Norway but hey it could happen.
The band could regroup. It could happen.
But everyone has a free will and that's why hell would freeze over first.
Date:
07/13/02 05:54:00 PDT
Comments:
Sorry to have misspelled the motto -Latin is not my strong suite but I'm well aware of the origin. Abraham Lincoln's last words: "I need a night at the theater like I need a hole in the head"
Date:
07/12/02 21:21:06 PDT
Comments:
Toby said: "They were having problems with the Album cover for Far Side, which was ultimately scrapped."
Is there a copy of the original cover somewhere on the web?
Why did Miles want Far side to be a solo album? Wasn't the WOV name still a good thing from Miles standpoint (because the name was known, and that would sell some albums)?
Date:
07/12/02 14:53:42 PDT
Comments:
Thanks for answering the question but, i would still like to know if anyone can find the song, "Guys like Girls" from the C.H.U.D.II and Cutting Class soundtracks. I like rare songs so if anyone can please try to find it that would be fantastic
Kasey
Date:
07/12/02 14:37:44 PDT
Comments:
it is spelled "sic semper tyrannis"( thus always to tyrants).
not to diss you in anyway, but thats our state motto here in Virginia.
typical though, since we are a commonwealth and in complete ruins with no thanks to the "TYRANTS" in office..
decay
Date:
07/12/02 09:57:43 PDT
Comments:
no problemo tobo
Date:
07/11/02 11:06:51 PDT
Comments:
Toby here -
I edited my post and forgot to reword the second part, whilst I don't know if Miles tried to lure Stan away from he band, he did try to lure Andy away. On two occasions. He wanted to take Far Side and the other songs that were on Andy's demo and rework them for a solo record. They were having problems with the Album cover for Far Side, which was ultimately scrapped. The whole band liked it and Andy didn't, siding with the record company. There was a lot of tension and then in a fit of exasperation Chas went, while they were sitting around Casa Voodoo, "Fuck it man, we should just use that fucking Black Velvet Clown painting right there...." So they all piled into the limo and went down to Alvarado street to look at Black Velvet paintings to try and see if there was something they could use. Andy was the first to be picked up and ultimately Marc could not be found. They all thought that he had split, which he had, but then he had a change of heart and came back. In the limo Miles confessed to his trepidation with the other members of Voodoo and lamented that a solo alubm might be a better choice. So that's what iI meant... I guess I should re-read things before I post them....
Date:
07/11/02 03:31:13 PDT
Comments:
Not sure what you were trying to say Toby?
Miles only ever put out records that he thought he would make money on. All the records that I produced or worked on for I.R.S. were budgeted largely from the standpoint of what they would almost certainly sell..For example a Go Go's record might have had a budget of $90,000 whilst a Fleshtones or Voodoo record might only have got $10,000.However he expected me and other producers to make everything sound like a million dollars. Miles took very few altruistic risks. I very much doubt that he lost any money at all on anything. Meanwhile, artists lost their relationships, lives, their focus and in some cases their hope.
I don't know about evil but let's not forget that Miles was an economic major at school not a creative one.
As for what we were thinking when we all signed up what the fuck would anyone do if they had no experience of business, a head full of rocks, veins full of Bud and lungs busting with pure Skunk and Marlboro Country Air?
Mazda
Date:
07/10/02 20:26:44 PDT
Comments:
Doesn't stop him from being an evil entity though.
Date:
07/10/02 17:15:21 PDT
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Toby here -
Also keep in mind that Miles put out Stans first couple records. He tried to do the same thing with Andy a few times. Once right before the first record was being recorded.
Date:
07/10/02 12:49:48 PDT
Comments:
hey K.R., pls let us know if CB plays any WOV-related songs - thanks!!
Date:
07/10/02 12:14:35 PDT
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"Sic semper tyrannus- "
Uh, is John Wilkes Booth a WOV fan?
Date:
07/10/02 04:14:16 PDT
Comments:
all of your post about m. copeland is true and I agree about the sore....he be a baddy..
wov fan
Date:
07/10/02 02:33:49 PDT
Comments:
Didn't Copeland also have a finger in WOV's publishing as well as being the manager AND owning their record label AND owning their booking agency??!!! What WAS they thinking? I know this sounds awful and I will go to hell but I wouldn't mind if that nasty sore on Mile's upper lip(watch the Bangles Behiond the Music special to see said sore) turns out to be malignant. Sic semper tyrannus-
Date:
07/09/02 17:19:35 PDT
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I doubt they will. They are playing here in Tennessee tomorrow night. Going to try to get my PRETTY & TWISTED cd signed.
K.R.
Date:
07/09/02 14:18:34 PDT
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OT: anyone know if Concrete Blonde is playing any Pretty & Twisted or Prieboy songs on their current tour? They're in Atlanta on Friday night (anyone else gonna be there??) -JD in Hotlanta
Date:
07/09/02 01:42:18 PDT
Comments:
stan ridgway: solo ac. and w/ trio
this week and next:
tuesday: 7/9 & 7/16
showtime: 9:30 PM
doors: 8 PM
dinner and beverage served
tables and chairs
largo
432 n. fairfax ave.
hollywood, ca.
tix & dinner res:
(323) 852-1073
free parking at rosewood and fairfax
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purchase cd's: http://www.cdbaby.com/group/ridgwaycds
stanridgway dot com: http://www.stanridgway.com
new west records: http://www.newwestrecords.com
Date:
07/08/02 21:39:51 PDT
Comments:
I rented Cutting Class and the only Wall of Voodoo song on it, Guys like Girls, sounds very much like Devo and not like Wall of Voodoo at all so it wasn't very impressive. The Andy Prieboy songs in the movie, though not all badly written, are musically very cheezy new wave.
I guess if this was the material that would have been on their next album, I'm glad they broke up without recording it, as I think it would've lessened WOV's reputation.
Date:
07/08/02 11:53:08 PDT
Comments:
Hi Natalie...no not Sector 27 though my connection with Tom Robinson came about because we supported them...then they split and my band [inc myself] replaced S 27 on the japanese with Tom. That's how I discovered that I was in fact Glad to be Gay [well Chas always thought I was a limey fag because I didn't wear underpants and dyed my hair] and that Power in the Darkness was right on. After getting in touch with my feminine side I went on to produce Tom's solo album 'North by Northwest'.,
Icidentally, Toby, Miles was my manager and label too and like everybody else I got screwed by his clever cross collaterised deals.
Thanks for your condolences everybody...I'm now coming up again so we better get this party started.
Mazda
Date:
07/08/02 08:29:17 PDT
Comments:
Toby here -
Those track from the movie were actually used in C.H.U.D.II and then recycled in Cutting Class. here is how it broke down. Andy was working on material for the next WOV record. IRS wanted to drop them, because they were contratually obligated to give them more money for their next album, the third (with the new record deal with Andy), so they dropped them and then called them all the next day and said, "Let's renegotiate." So they did and that was when Ugly Americans came out. No one in the band wanted to do a live album. It was IRS's standard answer when a band was at a cross roads with the label and they had to fullfill an album. So they fought to have the new songs on the album, which are not recorded live. As a matter of fact, there are a couple other tracks that are not recorded live. I know that Grass is Greener and Pretty Boy Floyd were not live. That's why they put the Bullhead City Arz. thing on there. Only one jounrnalist ever caught them on that and he did it by calling up the Bullhead City chamber of commerce and asking them if there were any venues in town that would have been able to hold Voodoo at the time, and then he looked back through the archives to see if they really played there, which they hadn't. Then when that record failed to ignite the flames of success, they were dropped again. Interesting note, they were managed by Miles Copeland, who was the head of their record company. Sounds like a conflict of interest to me. I mean he was negotiating with himself on the the behalf of his band. Who do you think got the better deal??
So they got dropped and the fate of the band was in the balance, they got this offer to put songs on this soundtrack and they were out on tour and just told them, "Take whatever you want" The money they made went to pay expencise. And the stuff that the management sent the record company were all demos that should have been on the next album, which never materialized.
as far as Eye Pro go, try this:
http://www.smutzine.com/eyepro/
you get Elroy and his B-Side sister Go Go Girl
I have two radio shows I am gonna dig up.
Toby Out!
PS What's the deal with the Ensenada Joyride? I need that shit!
tobydammit@earthink.net
Date:
07/07/02 07:30:04 PDT
Comments:
Mazda,
My condolesences and hopes for better luck real soon. Did you produce Sector 27 as well as "North By Northwest"? If so, you are even higher in my esteem (if that's possible, as you produced WOV and the sadly overlooked/underrated Fleshtones)!
Good luck!
natalie
Date:
07/07/02 05:50:24 PDT
Comments:
Also something someone might want to answer about the CUTTING CLASS soundtrack. 1 song is listed as MAN TALK-ANDREW PRIEBOY. Then it lists GUYS LIKE GIRLS, FOR LOVE & NEARER TO MORNING.I know that TALK, LOVE & MORNING all 3 were on ANDY'S first solo album, but this soundtrack lists 3 out of the 4 as being performed by WALL OF VOODOO.
Any answers to that one???
I. TATTOO
Date:
07/06/02 10:06:51 PDT
Comments:
Hey Toby, don't you have some/anything from Eye Protection?
Maybe convert the stuff to mp3?
Anybody? Take Her Where The Boys Are is fun stuff but how about Elroy Jetson. Would love to hear that song. I am going through Andy Withdrawl!!
Date:
07/05/02 15:04:52 PDT
Comments:
hey i was wondering if anyone can help me find a song called "Guys like Girls" from wall of voodoo it was on the soundtrack of the movie "Cutting Class" made in 1989?
Thanks,
Kasey
Date:
07/04/02 19:06:40 PDT
Comments:
Toby Here -
Stan show was great at largo, Andy;s shows were great at the Knitting Factory. Lots of Voodoo stuff happening around town.
Hey Stan! Usually the prformers come out at the end at Largo to mingle with the crowd for a mintue or two. Would love to see you adopt that habit!
I would love a copy of the Ensenda Joyride songs... email me at: tobydammit@earthlink.net got lots of stuff for a trade!!!
Hey Sheldon... you around?
Date:
07/04/02 10:52:46 PDT
Comments:
What happened to WOV's instruments? (A.K.A. Chas's synthesizer, Joe's pots and pans, Noland's keyboard.) It's a dumb question, but they contributed awesome sounds to the band's music.
Date:
07/04/02 08:30:14 PDT
Comments:
Mazda,
I am very sorry to hear about your losses. Hang in there, man. We missed you around here.
NZ
Date:
07/03/02 22:22:02 PDT
Comments:
the things we know...
the door is lost and long gone - built by Frank Delia and Co. Frank is now a screen writer and he says "i think it got scrapped..."
There were many bulldogs bought by Stan in TJ. Some are still around, but the one on the cover got broke long ago...
dusty clown...don't know.
joe in video?...don't know.
the tall bald guy in mexican radio is "CARL" who went on to star in alot of Hollywood films...Withches of Eastwick, Men In Black, Addams Family Values etc...also does computer software.
That's it...
Clark and Agathat @ sr dis-info
http://www.mindspring.com/~drywall2/
Date:
07/03/02 18:41:01 PDT
Comments:
Some trivial questions that have bugged me for years: 1) Does the lopsided door that WOV used in the "Mexican Radio" video and that they dragged around on tour in 1983 still exist? Who has it? (They also had it with them on their American Bandstand appearance.) 2} What happened to the ceramic bulldog (a piggy bank from TJ?) that was practically their trademark? 3) Who portrayed the dusty clown in the "Far Side of Crazy" video? It kind of looks like Marc under the makeup but I can't tell for sure. 4) Joe Nanini is supposedly in the "Far side of Carzy " video too,but I can't spot him. Where is he? 5) Is the really tall bald guy in the "Mexican Radio" video(the director) ,the same actor who played "Lurch" in the 1990's "Addams Family " movies?
Date:
07/03/02 14:42:08 PDT
Comments:
Yes, I've got the two songs that are on this french compilation. They are "One night in june" and "when the lights go out" writen by mark just before he first move to France. That was a very small project and I don't think it's possible to purchase it somewhere now. At that time (90-91), We thought it was a good way to get a studio and recording for free. I remember, during this period, Mark was really into Jesus and Mary Chains music. You can tell when you listen to it, it's a mix between Mark's unique style and some post-eighties noisy guitars. I can burn a cd and send it to whoever wants it.
love
Joachim
Date:
07/03/02 11:51:14 PDT
Comments:
Anyone know how Marc got that crazy sound from his guitar?
Date:
07/03/02 05:35:12 PDT
Comments:
For What it's Worth ....Yeah I'm still Here. After Marc's death in March I sadly lost my Mother in April and then was robbed of my laptop in May. Been licking my wounds and waiting for the scar tissue to form. With regards to my site it will be back, I am in dispute with my server. Hope to settle everything soon and be back on line for real. Shine on you crazy WOVheads..
Mazda
Date:
07/02/02 12:23:03 PDT
Comments:
I listened last night to Moreland's cd. Couldn't stop listening. It's far better than I expected, given his condition. There's depth, a great sense of melody, sadness, humor, irony. It's a painting done by a real artist, using colors only Mark saw, on a canvas only he knew. Taking it all in, I regard the truth of the band I once loved more completely. His is a fine farewell, requiring no regret. A statement made, and worth making. Welcome to Mark's world, and goodbye. It was dark, yes, but beautiful in the way only darkness can be.
I now withdraw into the ether, with thanks. lv
Date:
07/01/02 20:47:35 PDT
Comments:
Just to set the record straight here.
Stan had a picture of Marc on his site for over two months I think and it was a picture from the Call Of The West Tour with Marc in front of the van they traveled in.
clark the P
Date:
07/01/02 18:35:14 PDT
Comments:
Dharma & Greg has been cancelled as of the end of last season. Chas is now working on the set of a movie filming in Texas. He's a set dresser, which more or less means he gets to lug around all the shit you see on tv and movie sets and make sure it's in the right place. Chas was an integral part of Wall of Voodoo and the sound wouldn't have been nearly as rich and multi-faceted without him. He reads the bulletin board here whenever he gets the chance, so everybody wave at him as you go by!
**wave**wave**
Rock on,
Ms. Vieuxdo
Date:
07/01/02 14:43:57 PDT
Comments:
Darma and Greg, sorry.
Date:
07/01/02 14:42:44 PDT
Comments:
The last I heard Chas is doing ok, living in Ca. He was working on the set of Darma and Grag. You are right Chas is a very important part of WOV and is missed. He brought a relly cool element to the band. Oh and by the way if Stan is so praised lately, why then didn't he put anything on his website about Marc's death? Not that I don't like stan but he's just too darn self centered.
Date:
06/30/02 09:52:10 PDT
Comments:
Bill Noland lives in Seatlle and does music for films, puts out records, has two boys with his wife Mary... and well...here's more info
http://artists.mp3s.com/info/231/bill_noland.html
clark the P
Date:
06/29/02 22:15:00 PDT
Comments:
Whatever happened to Bill Noland?
Date:
06/29/02 22:14:08 PDT
Comments:
Hey, can anybody please give me some info on Chas T. Gray? What is he up to these days? Does he still play music? What did he do before Wall Of Voodoo, and how did he get into the band? Come on people, we all know about Stan, Mark, Bruce, Andy, Joe, and Ned, what about Chas???? I mean, without Mr. Gray, Wall Of Voodoo wouldn't have been possible. And also, he is one of the three original members still alive! We've all praised Stan, Joe, and Mark, which is great, but what about Chas?
A Chas Gray Fan
Date:
06/25/02 20:26:44 PDT
Comments:
While in France Marc was in a band called Ensenada Joyride and in one of the interview segments with Toby, Marc mentioned that one of the Ensenada Joyride songs ended up on a French compilation. Does anyone have this song?
I also remember Sheldon mentioning that Marc had a box full of tapes filled with Wall of Voodoo demos and stuff....I hope that box is in a safe place...and the material on it will someday be released to the WOV Cult (commercially or otherwise).
Date:
06/25/02 14:09:07 PDT
Comments:
Hi everybody
I'm Joachim and just read message from "CP" asking for some infos from Marc's friends on the record. I had recorded with mark, John and Jean-Marc some of the stuff that are on "MM Mess".
Strong memories...especially tonight, of these last 12 years.
So much good times even when I used to go and see him at the hospital.
Don't know if I've got something interesting to say but I Would be happy to speak about Marc with anybody.
Kisses from Paris
Joachim
Date:
06/22/02 07:20:54 PDT
Comments:
stan's coach house show by PHIL from San Diego
http://www.midwinter.com/beyond/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66
Date:
06/21/02 14:28:31 PDT
Comments:
My Condolence to Marc´s Family and my true Respect for his work (can´t say anything about his life, cause i don´t know about it).
Have listened to Wall of Voodoo since i heard "A far Side of Crazy" for the first time. The best Song - however - was "Wrong Way to Hollywood".
Nothing left to say, except that i´m sad about the "Dead" of Wall of Voodoo.
Sincerelly
Jake
Date:
06/18/02 14:47:58 PDT
Comments:
"Far Side Of Crazy" is mine
JH
Date:
06/18/02 14:39:49 PDT
Comments:
Hey Pissed,
I know how you feel about the guy on Ebay selling the cd's and videos. I had to stay on his a#* for months until he sent my stuff. And I was on him all the time. But finally I got what he was supposed to send me. The stuff is really cool because it has been years since I've seen the band playing live and I have to tell you it was great to see them all again. The quality is poor on the videos and as well on the cd's but hey it's better than nothing. If he doesn't come through I'd be happy to copy what I have for you. I hate when people don't come through and leave you hanging. So I hope you get them soon, just stay on his rear end all the time and threaten to leave him really bad feedback. It worked for me.
Date:
06/18/02 09:00:19 PDT
Comments:
Can anyone turn out the studio version of Fun Zone or Fine Line?
Date:
06/18/02 08:58:18 PDT
Comments:
O gosh, I do so look forward to the day when someone gets his hands on the WoV studio versions of Fun Zone and Fine Line.
Greetings by Hungerhahn
Date:
06/18/02 06:55:24 PDT
Comments:
Looks like Audiogalaxy has been shut down............
Date:
06/17/02 18:01:02 PDT
Comments:
Hey Mazda! Are you still with us?
Hey, I have your website featured on my "Intense Music Links" page, but today I click and I click, ...and NOTHIN' is THERE! Will you be back?
Hoping so,
NZ
Date:
06/16/02 03:29:19 PDT
Comments:
re: the WOV Bootlegger on Ebay_ I will not argue the right and wrong of bootlegs but WILL say that the guy selling videos and and cds on Ebay -80sthing is his username-is VERY shady in his dealings. Those who finally got their boots were lucky.What do I have to do to get this loser to send my stuff? I notice he also in the business of Christian rock stuff and those bidders never seem to have negative feedback against him -just the people who buy the WOV material. All I can mumble is: you guys told me so. signed :Pissed
Date:
06/15/02 13:21:51 PDT
Comments:
a live version of back in flesh? (is too much?)
Date:
06/12/02 21:12:15 PDT
Comments:
I just acquired the "Marc Moreland Mess" CD and enjoyed the straightforwardness
of lyrics as well as the unmistakable "twang" of Marc through his guitar. I've missed
him since the breakup of WoV and am finding even more meaning now that I know
of the physical hell he endured. I will treasure his contribution of "reality music". It
was literally from the gut of daily life. Forever with a tipped hat and fond memories....
Christopher Elliot Gray (51)
Tigard, Oregon
rasputin@teleport.com
Date:
06/12/02 20:39:08 PDT
Comments:
i'mlookingforabassguitarandampforunder$100.00!!!!!!!thankskenneth
Date:
06/12/02 16:57:11 PDT
Comments:
Hey, Lisa...
THANKS!
NZ
Date:
06/12/02 05:27:49 PDT
Comments:
Hey Guys,
Could someone please answer a question for me? Was the song "Do It Again" from Happy Planet used on a movie soundtrack? I would have bet my life it was used in a movie, but if so I do not remember what it was. Was it? And if so, what was the movie? Thanks for your help in advance. Steve G
Date:
06/12/02 00:05:06 PDT
Comments:
As coincidence would have it, I have an answer for you. I've just posted live footage of "Funzone" on my web site, performed by WOV at the US Festival, and accompanying the files is an essay by Stan Ridgway on leaving Wall Of Voodoo. It's the first time to my knowledge that he's talked publically about it.
Anyway, the short answer is "yes, a studio version exists, and no, nobody knows where it is". You can read the whole thing, and download the files, here: http://www.midwinter.com/beyond/media/funzone/
And I invite you to take a look at the huge (!) update on my news page: http://www.midwinter.com/beyond/news/
larry hastings
beyond tomorrow
http://www.midwinter.com/beyond/
Date:
06/09/02 16:26:21 PDT
Comments:
This is one for the experts:
Is there a studio version of "Funzone" or a longer version of "Faded Love" in existence anywhere?
Also; here's another link to my Marc tribute for those who may not have visited yet:
HERE
NZ
Date:
06/09/02 03:35:17 PDT
Comments:
Hi, i wold advise you that "wall of voodoo" audiogalaxy group is slowly but continuasly increasing. Please help us to let this group better. go into audiogalaxy page, search for wall of voodoo group and ask to join. you can find a lot od voodoo and members rarities. Tks in advance
Date:
06/08/02 07:34:49 PDT
Comments:
The Kevin here , from the Isle Of Wight . A small island at the extreame south of England . Musically it's very stolid , with no independent record outlets and , even now , only one high street outlet palming off commercial rot to the masses . So you can appreciate the state of things back in the early 80's !.Anyway I managed to get hold of Dark Continent and Granma's House ; while still a wee school boy of 15 . I'd never heard anything like it ! and quite honestly it freaked the shit out of my (not for much longer) friends . Yet to me , it was the most original sound going , absolutely unique...including the guitar playing .
I wish to say how saddened I was when an old school friend phoned and informed me that he'd just read about the death of Marc . What could I do apart from show respect by playing my favourite selection of W.O.V. material full volume from the top floor , with the windows wide open , for the benifit and enlightenment of all within hearing distance !
Thanks for the Vibes .
THE KEVIN .
Date:
06/08/02 01:38:50 PDT
Comments:
the obscure hayride lyric?
well i got a call from ( sounds like Lucy again? *** maybe Lisa as in Lisa Dewey at Kitchen Whore)again again see what I do.. oh yeah
I thought that was Lisa Dewey on the backing vocals for 'The End?"
.. but she isn't listed as being on that track in the liners.. maybe it is PJ?
I love that song.. marc's voice with the unknown voice is wrenching considering the last couple years. Strange how when I listen to this album every day- there are the downs still about marc, but the guitar on hey lady, or jacked up, or the entire 'saw the light' just snap me out of it. That intro to hey lady is the coolest damn thing ever and then on the second or third verse when marc goes hendrix, plus all of that muted rat a tat percussion sound from the guitar. i can't explain it but that song has so much of his great repertoire in it
anyway- this will always be the most important disc i own
ps
when i hear 'i saw the lights' it brings back memories of 'ride' the pretty & twisted song. two of my favorite songs while driving
the ice cream truck? it's eight o'clock in the fuckin' morning!
rich- the stubborn pollito
galaimpter@aol.com
Date:
06/07/02 05:31:21 PDT
Date:
06/06/02 17:55:46 PDT
Comments:
Shit, now Dee Dee Ramone is gone.................
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video in europe of wov?
m1
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no, meant further on in the song..
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I thought it was:
we'll jack the volkswagen up again
head on down south to mexico
pick up some drugs in san diego....
seems like a good idea to me....Hayride...
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somewhat related - would appreciate lyric help, from Hayride:
"I got a call from <.....> again;
yes, that would be nice to hear from some of marc's friends on the record. How was it? marc studio stories? we would love to hear. all hail voodoo.
cp
marcs "spotlight" album is down right wonderous to listen to. its been in my disc plpayer for 6 weeks now since i had to wait about 3 weeks to receive it here in Virginia.
is pj harvey on back up vocals on the end? also, can someone tell me when this was recorded.
and finally, i was hoping if "the players" could offer some of their insight to their dealings with marc during the production of the album or any other stories that we could hear.. thanks so much..
deacy
Heard about the tragic death og Marc only yesterday. It's a sad, sad day and my thoughts go out to his family and friends.
Saw WOV play live in Oslo/Norway many years ago. A great experience!
RIP, Marc
The Gunslinger
Oslo
Norway
Marc is in my thoughts every day.
Tovet
How about blow-up cigarettes? These would increase lung power whilst satisfying some saddo's nipple fixation
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stanridgway8
see now, if they would have advertised inflatable IGUANAS. That would have fit right in. 2.00 extra for bar-b-que.
Mike
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Thank You and have a good day ...
Sorry about that not working. I was out of town for the weekend and didn't get it working again until today. Same link, same mp3s. Enjoy.
Nick
Anto here -
I smoke either but I'm not sure that this forum is an appropriate place for cig adds.
If someone needs to smoke - well it's always a shop on the opposite side of the street. Probably these guys thought that the add would be interesting for people who are fans of the band where players are smokers. Joke.
NICK.....BUDDY......
That link to the mp3's isn't working.
Gooday from australia. I'm the most appreciative fella who harped on about 'far side'. I got the elusive cd and it rips. Keep up the good work folks. I smoke, but I thought that the previous message( a couple back)was a bit uncalled for. Don't they make enough cash(retorical question). Take it easy.
I guess since cigarette ads are banned just about every place these days they've decided to come to a bulletin board near you. And now back to our regular programming...
Ms. V
WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT???
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It's funny. Devo had a song on their album "Oh No, It's Devo" called "I Desire" which is the poem Hinkley wrote to Foster. I believe the poem was printed in the National Enquiorer.
John F. Hinckley, dear!
Sam
Thanks Nick (I just love the unique WOV guitar work from Marc). I was reading the other day about the nature of the song.
Seems it has something to do with the would-be assassin (forget his name) who tried to assasinate Ronald Reagon back in 81'.Apparently he was trying to impress Jodie Foster.
Sounds like a good excuse to write a song if you want my opinion. One other question: How many times did WOV tour Australia and when.
Cheers
Jonathan P.
About the remixed Far Side of Crazy:
On the CD and the two Far Side of Crazy singles I have, it uses the remixed version by Ian Broudie. I'm not sure why they chose to remix it from the LP version, but there's not much difference from the LP version. The remix has about a second or two more of silence before the song starts up and different instruments seem to be given more precedence than others. It also seems to sound more clean than the original, but that's probably because one comes from vinyl the other from a CD. The main difference is that Marc's guitar is more noticable in the original, but it's downplayed in the remix. Other than that, I can't spot any really big differences aside from the remix being eight seconds longer.
Nick
hi, if anyone knows where i can get a copy (burned or real)
of Dark Continent email me at Pixie22182@cs.com. (JAMIE)
As you sit in your throne, and not only judge ALL of us simultaneously, but also sentence us ALL to eternal hell, I just wonder... Why does someone with so much God-Like power decline to sign their post?
NapalmZappa
Why do you like hurting others
You guys are going to hell dont you care
Bruce wasn't the one who died. It was Marc.
Hi
I'm new here so I thought I might drop you a line. I've been a big fan of WOV for around ten years when I first heard 'Mexican Radio'on our local rock station MMMFM104 Brisbane, Australia.
For some reason or other they have been playing 'Far side of crazy' on a regular basis lately. I wonder if it's got something to do with Bruce Moreland's death. Anyway, they had a top 500 rock song's of the 80s countdown just last week and 'Far side....' came in at 317 - not bad considering all the serious competition i.e Robert Palmer, ZZ top,
Dire Straits, Billy Idol etc.
I've managed to pick up both the US and Aussie CDs of 'Seven Day's...,the Australian CD is pink and the cover is much darker. I actually prefer that one to the US disc. One question, 'Far side..'has been remixed for the 1989 CD, was the original 7" version
released in 1985 any different?
I would like to hear from any more WOV fans in Australia.
Cheers
Jonathan Pike
aged 31
Cool Ms. V..thanks for the info from OR.
The show is called Open Air. Here where I am in Oregon they have 6 hours every weekday morning of music chosen by two deejay-ish men. One of the guys (his name is Brad Ranger I believe) seems to be a fan of Stan's because he slides a song of his in usually at least once or twice a week. He's also played a WoV tune or two in the past. I didn't hear the album review, so it wasn't a replay of that.
Rock on,
Ms. V
NPR? what show was the song on or did they replay the album review?
I heard Stan's "Act of Faith" on National Public Radio today. Nice to know some deejays have good taste.
Rock on,
Ms. V
waz up
Neat site! Be sure to visit Mr. Bill's IRS Corner (www.irscorner.com); you'll probably want to add it to your links. Keep up the good work.
Jim Brent (LPJim@aol.com)
my site: www.geocities.com/LPJim54/
Wow. What a feeling. Having just heard Far Side, I am absolutely thrilled. It's been fifteen years since I last heard that great song. I love that song, it is no doubt one of the best songs I have ever heard. I've been raving about it to my girlfriend for an age, and when I finally find it, she's asleep. I try to wake her, but she promises she will listen to it in the morning. I sound over the top but I went through every cd, record, and single in two pawn shops looking for it. I gotta thank Nick (I will buy it soon). I know shit about computers and all the burning stuff etc, so I look forward to getting a hold of Sammy's and attaching it to my stereo and crankin' it up. Feelin' good. Once again, a memorable song, even better to hear fifteen years later. Cheers to you.
HELP!!! Chas or Andy..............
Back in the days, Marco and I were making attempts to gather up the stuff that was used in those last days of WOV. We got a Prophet 2000 and found a MC-500. We never found a Prophet 2002. I was able to have a friend give me his the other day so I broke out the old WOV discs for the live shows. I wanted to play along with some of the tunes that you guys programed. But I'm having problems with the channels. Did you have another machine with the 2 prophets? How can I get the channels to play correctly. I hit play for Do It Again and I get the tracks playing on the wrong instruments......aAAaAAAAAgh. I'm dying to play along with the stuff but I have no idea what secrets you guys had with the keyboards. Thanks for any help
sheldon
Sorry about the lack of MP3s of late. I forgot to update the address to point to my computer, so it went dead. Though, it's back up and running available to anyone over here.
Nick
Gooday from Australia. I'm the bloke who ramlbed on a bit the other day about grammar and whatever. Forgive me, I just had the net put on and your page was the second one I tracked {after Telsa's}.I guess that I'm talking with the members from WOV, I don't know too much how this thing works. Anyway I was pretty exicted when I had this net thing put on, and since one of my goals over the last few months is getting to listen to Far side of crazy again, I thought that somehow, I'd get apreview or something. I'm just going to order Sammy's anyway. I won't go on, but I was trying to remember a few months back at least, songs I really loved when I was a kid. I swear that 'Far Side' was the first single I ever bought when I was fourteen or so. I can remember that rockin' chorus really well, and after reading the lyrics section in the website, the rest of the song was coming back to me. I don't know where the single went but I just know it was one of the best songs I heard and can't wait ti hear it again. I just thought I'd tell you guys what a great memorable song that is, and I'm sure that it will be as good to listen to when I do. Take it easy.
i buy dance of death here in italy but is not good like the index master live sound!|
funs of wall of voodoo i think wants songs, videos and others pay or free.
massimone1
Tell me about!
Enough with the ebay debate already. You guys are giving me a cramp.
By the way, I agree with something awhile back. Someone asked where the MP3 links went that were up awhile back. I think it was NICK that had some VOODOO concerts up in MP3 form. Downloaded them & lost them.
NICK. Buddy. Any chance of you putting those back up for us?
I. TATTOO
Why is this "to sell or not to sell" debate still going on when the opinions of two of the founding members of the band expressed they didn't care? Can't we just drop it and move on?
DANCE OF DEATH is so clear because it was a radio broadcast. The radio guy was just edited out. Also, SPIT OUT THE WINDOW (live @ club SPIT)is the same.
I.TATTOO
Has anyone heard the CD Bootleg of Wall of Voodoo's, Dance Of Death? I can't believe the quality of this CD, the sound is beautiful, stereo, clear as a bell, like a studio album. It was made in '83 recorded live at El Mocambo, Toronto Canada. I got this from someone from Italy of all places. Any other opinions on this one?
Has anyone heard the CD Bootleg of Wall of Voodoo's, Dance Of Death? I can't believe the quality of this CD, the sound is beautiful, stereo, clear as a bell, like a studio album. It was made in '83 recorded live at El Mocambo, Toronto Canada. I got this from someone from Italy of all places. Any other opinions on this one?
oh, I can think of some skuzzier things than that.
As someone who has purchased and traded for bootleg WOV material I figured I'd add my voice to Toby's. Selling copies this stuff is just wrong IMO. I'm not the biggest bootleg trader around but the first thing I learned is that selling is just totally uncool. Most traders are actually offended if you offer to buy a copy of something from them. Not the way to start off a relationship with someone that has something you want. Selling seems scuzzy to me. As with anything else there are those that don't agree and I'm prepared to live with that.
I'm not with the moral majority and apologize if this comes off otherwise. I've certainly copied more than my share of CD's for myself and for others. My rationalizations aside, I have to admit that stealing is stealing. For my own sake I draw the line at selling copies. If others draw the line elsewhere or have no line at all, then they have to deal with their own conscience.
Like Toby, I find it hard to believe that people would buy this stuff when it's readily available for trade. I have a woefully outdated bootleg page up and have never once been contacted for a trade. I'm listed at Tapetrader and still haven't been contacted once about a trade for a copy of a show. Perhaps it's easier to shell out 40.00+ for a poorly recorded bootleg but that doesn't make much sense to me. There are so many ways to find and trade for this stuff that I don't understand why folks are unwilling to do it if they want something enough to shell out that much dough.
I don't have a hotline to any of the artists involved but I can't imagine that they really support the sale of music and performances by those who had nothing to do with its creation. I'd guess that most of those selling this stuff either got this stuff from a trade or free from a friend. Just doesn't seem right to me. That the musicians involved don't object too much is probably more the result of them being exceedingly nice people and not wanting to offend fans. Of course I could be wrong.
Regards,
Jim Clark
"he would always end the conversation with, I just want to make music that SOMEONE will like listening to."
..MM got that all covered, man, & it's great, timeless stuff too :)
Well said, Sheldon. Thanks. I talked to Chas about the whole video thing over the weekend and he said it was no big deal to him as long as no one was trying to price gouge the fans or make outrageous amounts of money off the stuff. As I may have mentioned before, the videos that seem to have started this whole debate were starting at $9.99 which seemed reasonable to me when you factor in the price of a blank tape, packaging and such. And, like others have said, if you don't approve, don't bid. That's it for me this time around.
Rock on,
Ms. V
I can't speak for anyone else in WOV but I can tell you about the long nights Marc and I talked at length about all this "making money" from music thing. We both would laugh how everything we did as artists or whatever cost money. From the day we paid for a guitar to the day we had to buy tape to record on...we were always paying money somehow to be musicains and writers. From day one, others were making money from our work or our needs to create music. Gibson, Ampex, Fender, Tascam, Dean Markley, Marlbro, local dealer, record company, advertisers on the radio stations and the stations, IRfuckingS (as marc said it). We were always paying SOMEONE to make music. We hated the idea. What ever money we got from the stupid lable, they told us we had to pay it back somehow, someday. Some people do make money from there talent. I guess those are the ones that make the rest of us think we will someday too. But, I don't care who the fuck you are....everyone has copied a record to tape. Everyone has listened to a burned copy of someone elses CD. We've all copied something for others. To make it such a moral issue is fruitless. Marc always wished he was making more money off the music he's done. But he would always end the conversation with, I just want to make music that SOMEONE will like listening too.
sorry for my misspellings and grammer crap.
-sheldon
ho let's go
hey
Out of curiousity, how does the band feel about the downloading of their music in mp3 format? Is that up there with the selling on eBay or do they think of it as a lesser form of tape trading?
My immediate apologies to all the grammatically wise, and spelling bee winners, who would have been a bit amused with my last drunken comment. I meant to say 'years', not tears (see previous comment). I apologise for any confusion as a result of this. By the way, 'Far Side' has escaped Australia and I hope I don't have to bite the bullet and wait for it to be shipped from overseas.Any help would be appreciated( forget tips with my poor grammar, that's just a lost cause). See ya.
I want a copy of Far Side of Crazy. As an absolute freak fan of good music, I can honestly say, after fifteen of sixteen tears, I still crave to hear that cracker.
"supply & demand? So TOBY, does that mean you would feel it is ok to put a used copyrighted cd of dark continent on ebay. Start it out at 40.00 & let it go to 100.00?"
the difference is this: if it's an original CD you're selling, supply and demand applies. You are without it after the sale, having traded the *original* for $. Yes it is ok, it was an investment that you made at some point in the original.
If you copy your original, sell the copy, and continue to sell copies, that is fraud. In the ebay case, the "original" either a) came from a trade, b) came from a purchase on ebay, or c) the individual shot the tape his/herself. Making recurring money in each of these scenarios ranges from shitty to illegal.
Toby said:
porn=legal
bootlegging=not legal
Yes, but I think we're arguing what is ethical, which is of course, different from what is legal, but i'm not the guy who's criticizing you for porn...so i'll just move on. If the WOV members want to make some money, then they have to put some stuff out. The success of e-bay footage of WOV demonstrates there is a small market that would justify a limited release of WOV B-sides and concert footage. Members of another band I like, Wire, have done things like this, even burning their own cd's for a limited release! Point is, If they want to make some money, by all means they should put something together and start selling it. I'd love to put some money directly in their pockets, but as of now they aren't giving me the opportunity to do so!
I didn't know of WOV until it was too late for me to see them play live, and I was happy that the bootleg I bought on e-bay, despite it's marginal quality, gave me the opportunity to see my favorite band live, an opportunity I would have otherwise never had.
supply & demand? So TOBY, does that mean you would feel it is ok to put a used copyrighted cd of dark continent on ebay. Start it out at 40.00 & let it go to 100.00? do the members get anything out of that?
No, they don't. Let me ask you this, If someone took one of your pornos & put it on ebay for a higher price than you charged to sell it & they made triple the money, is that supply and demand too? Did that make it right? would that piss you off? (1. No it isn't. 2. No it isn't 3. yes it would)As someone who won one of those shows, I am glad I did! I had never seen them in concert before. If another showed up that I had not seen, I would buy it too. You sound like someone who lost the auction.
If you are going to condemn it, then condemn it all.
If not, get down off your cross. There are people out there that can use the wood.
Mike
Toby here-
porn=legal
bootlegging=not legal
And I define bootlegging as the SELLING of copyrighted material. Be it live or studio. None of you selling videos of live Wall of Voodoo performance or demos paid for the stuff. You did NOTHING but make a copy and offer it for sale. An album that is out of print fetching a lot of money or eBay or anywere else is just supply and demand at it's basic. If Stan had copies of his live cd's, which I'm sure he has a couple, and he put them on eBay and they sold for $85, then that is him supplying to the demand. And what I meant was that there was no Stan solo stuff being sold because he was asked not to put any on eBay. Stan does not have a claim on the Voodoo era stuf, because he shares the profits with the other members. But his solo stuff directly affects his pocketbook. But as Ms.V pointed out, this is just my opinion...
And just to point out something here and put it in context... I have gotten stuff directly form members of Wall of Voodoo and they were really pissed when the stuff that I got from them ended up on eBay. Now they know that I did not put it there, but someone I traded with did and they are now reluctant to give me any more stuff because they know that it most likely will get to eBay. We all have to swim in this pool and when someone pisses in it, it wrecks it for the rest of us.
i'm glad i was able to find wov booted vid stuff on e-bay. now i get to watch my favorite band almost any time i want. didn't know of people trading anything here before.
as for there not being any stan stuff- good
i've always thought of him as a goofy little one dimensional uncle remus wannabe. If he'd resisted his delusions and stayed in wov , he would have had more of what he was/ is still seeking... and he could buy some more marionettes with which to play
But, he is a good bloke though- touching post he put on about marc
anywhoooo::: if a boot of their 2nd scream show ever gets out ( there is one- i got a copy from someone)one can hear a liquored up wov freak/stan disliker(not an oxymoron) screaming "stan sucks" repeatedly and then Andy finally stopping and saying "WHAT?" ,,, then the person again yelling "Stan sucks!" to which andy responds" Oh Stan sucks,,, I thought you were saying THIS BAND SUCKS!"Well at the
time it was kinda amusing. now before the Chpr.11 brigade begins : hey- stan is fine- i just don't like his music that much - when he was in wov I was into marc's guitar, and then when Andy came in, I got into blackboard sky, hollywood the second time, living in the red- which was seedier but more human to me. and to top it off i got suckered into seeing him at the coach house (for the big heat tour- wov would never do anything as inane as camouflage)anyway- i just wanted to hurl after seeing some gawper trying to imitate marc's guitar on tomorrow and a couple other songs
so, the lucky two dollar bill to all
Ricardo "El Pollito"
galaimpter @ aol.com
hey man, i saw a chupacabra last time i was went to ensenada
Yeah, time travel. He's going back in time to seize all the copies of that porno flick he made so he can be the only one making and selling copies. After all, a man's gotta protect his ass....um, I mean assets.
**snicker**
Time travel.... its time travel.
What is Stan up to? His message board says he's up to something that he hasn't done before. It's not a soundtrack. So what is it?
Any guesses or inside information?
Exsqueeze Me? Stan whips his dick out? Holidays in Dirt indeed!
just listening to " The End?"
Almost not a day has passed since '83 that I haven't listened
to something with marc's guitar in it (pretty & twisted, all voodoo, crooks, mess and more). Wouldn't it be cool if somehow we could create a marc disc with all the stuff he has done? Get some great photos on it for the cover art... Oh well... dunno how to do it
but so many people are missing out on the best guitar work ever
stuff like souvenier to ring of fire live
I'd like to start it with faded love as an intro- quirky guitar with his vocal
Anyone have a favorite Marc riff? I have always been partial to museums, living in the red, mona- that kinda stuff. I remember when I took guitar lessons for a couple weeks and my "teacher" listened to what I wanted to learn and he heard Mona and said "yeah, anyone can play that marlboro man riff. " Yeah right dude- go worship clapton some more---- I'll never hear anything as cool as marc's style--- even if it was a simple riff he made it ethereal
the ice cream truck? it's 8 o'clock in the fucking morning!
PS the guitar he did on pretty and twisted is just mega- the full spectrum of his talents- an all out assault
i know that bemused expression is somehow watching from somewhere and hearing take it to the spotlight with a nod of approval
hey lady is an instant classic and has been playing in my car every day
rich
galaimpter@aol.com
shivering on cahuenga and yucca
..just seems like if I received a trade of the vids or bought them, then turned around that sold copies on ebay until interest ran out - that's money made dishonestly.
If I sold my "original" copy, that seems fair.
Probably the best way to make sure he/she gets $0 is to.. not buy them, trade them here, hunt them out and make for a fun time of getting something for some work and enjoying it. Like going to record shows and digging through all the crap and finding something that apparently no one else wants (or found) but you get for a song. Life's more fun that way.
Hey, maybe if there is a video of WALL OF VOODOO where STAN whips his dick out, that might be ok.
Lisa J.
That has got to be the funniest thing I have ever seen.
A guy that makes PORNO MOVIES is telling us what is right & wrong.
SEX sells/VOODOO doesn't.
oh, my ribs.
Mike
Oh sure, like STAN doesn't mind that a copy of HOLIDAY IN DIRT sold on ebay for 35.00 last week. Or how about the copy of his live cd from Germany that sold for 85.00? Plenty of STAN stuff,& he isn't getting a dime for it. The copies of DIRT are promos sent to record stores, for free.
DEPT. OF CROOKS cds sell on ebay making more money that MARC or any of them saw or will ever see for it.
Let's not forget that DARK CONTINENT sells between $50 to $100,if you are lucky. A copy on SAMMYSTOWN is at the time of this posting setting at $46 !!! Used copy too.
Don't see the problem with videos being sold. I have bought plenty. Ranging from U2 to BOWIE to whatever catches my eye & I love them! As I see it, if you think it is wrong, then don't bid.
Better chance of me winning that way.
I. TATTOO
Ms. V here,
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on whether or not it's okay to sell stuff on eBay. Having talked to many of the band members myself about videos, most of them had never even seen some of the stuff that's being sold and traded around. They certainly didn't have copies of their own until either I or friends of mine made copies for them. And there is Stan era video being sold. Right now there's video from the US Festival, video from the Dark Continent era and live in Hollywood opening for Devo, just to name a few. There are ways for the people in the band to stop the sales of bootleg material on eBay if they want to try. I agree that it's much better to trade with each other, but there seems to be lots of fans who aren't plugged into this online Wall of Voodoo network yet.
But I'm just speaking for myself here. I'm not an official spokeswoman for anyone but myself. Everyone is free to disagree with me as often as they like.
Rock on...
Toby here-
I would have to disagree with Ms. V on the cd's and videos on ebay... I don't think the guys are o.k. with it. I'm sure you've talked to at least one or two of them and asked them, but I don't think that they are o.k. with everyone else profiting off of their music. They would be o.k. with people trading it, but for us to make money off of their hard work is just not right. I mean we are talking about a band who in their hey day really couldn't make enough money to do music full time. Marc worked at the track for years... They have the option to release this stuff themselves like Stan is starting to do, and then it really would not be right. And while we are on that subject, why is there no Stan stuff being sold? The guy doing the selling probably has Stan stuff too. Why no Stan stuff? Probably because he told him not to, or he knows Stan reads the web and knows what is going on... so if that is the case, why should he sell Voodoo stuff?
As far as people getting a collection fo their own, there are ways... we all have stuff we are willing to trade for double blanks or for other stuff, not necessarily Voodoo stuff. I've always put that out there for people. Gotten a couple nibbles and have made some great trades. There are always people willing to work with you. Everyone has to start their collection of boots somewhere.
Anyone interested drop me a line:
tobydammit@earthlink.net
Check out www.irscorner.com for info views on marc, voodoo, stan etc...this is not run by record co people but by a super geeZer called Mr Bill. leave a message on their discussion forum or check out the various biographies...
The band members don't seem to have a problem with the tapes being sold and they're being listed for a reasonable starting price, so I don't see anything wrong in it. He's not asking much more than the cost of the blank tape and the postage in his starting price, so he's not trying to price gouge people. And it's not like they were commercially filmed videos that the band was making royalties on. I'd probably do it myself if I had the time and the means to duplicate all the WoV stuff I've amassed on tape over the years. If you can think of a better way to let the fans acquire their own collections of videos, let us know.
Rock on,
Ms. V
maybe it's been covered before - any thoughts on the live tapes on ebay? Surely the individual is just dup'ing them for $, which seems wrong.
I am looking for a cd (or cd-r) copy of "Happy Planet".. I would be very happy to buy one, or better yet trade a few cd-r's of cool punk or new wave for one.. I will hook anyone up super for a trade.. I need this on cd format..
PLEASE e-mail me At Gogo1980@mindspring.com
Thanks Craig
I geuss the HTML doesn't work on here anymore...
Here is the URL instead:
http://www.stanridgway.com/disco/stanard/tbh.html
NZ
Jeff;
The song is by Stan Ridgway, off his first solo release by the same name, "The Big Heat". Here is a link to Stan's official website description of the release:
If you like that one, the door is open to all of the great music Stan has created over the years, including, of course, Wall of Voodoo.
By the way, Sam, AWESOME post.
NZ
OK, this may be a little strange but I heard a song a long time ago that recently revisited me in a dream. I don't know if it is a Wall of Voodoo saong or maybe a stan ridgeway. At any rate, I only remember bits of the lyrics and the general story of the song and I was hoping that someone could point me in the right direction. Here are the bits I can remember They will seem a bit disjointed I am sure.
How long have you been following this guy the bell boy asked...
It's the big heat, there's someone following you
It's the big heat, step aside we're coming through
Everybody wants another piece of pie today, she said
You've got to watch the ones that always keep their hands clean.
OK, so that is all I can remember. Thanks in advance for any help.
If you know anything about this, please email me at omedivinehammer@attbi.com.
-Jeff
Dear Marc
Two weeks ago I visited this site again after a while and an innocent and ordinary day became a day of profound sorrow. Deep sadness came over me. From one second to the other my bones seemed to have filled with lead. Marc, your death reminded me instantly of my youth and the part you and WOV had in it and have for my entire life. You were so important to me. When I first heard of you, my life didn't work out the way I wanted it to. Especially the exponents of the female species didn't have the interest in me I would have wanted. Somehow I kept going, but I never would have made it without your indirect support. You and Wall of Voodoo, i.e. your songs, always were the source of consolation and joy for me. You were the motor that kept me going. Your music was the only thing I really could rely on. It always gave me support and made me happy. I must have listened to Dark Continent, Call of the West, Seven Days in Sammy's town and Happy Planet at least a thousand times each. I used to sink into your songs as if they had been a second world - a world that was always worth living. I especially sank into your riffs, Marc. Your riffs that were full of rythm, melody, geniality and suffering. Marc, I will never forget that I was allowed to eat with you after a concert of Wall of Voodoo. My being allowed to sit next to and eat with you belongs to the fondest memories of my entire life. You were so kind and natural. Marc, I thank you so much for all you did to me while just being yourself. I owe you so much. I also want to thank to Chas, Bruce, Joe, Ned, Andy and Stan. You also were part of it and without you Wall of Voodoo wouldn't have become the world's best band ever.
Frédérique, si j'avais sû que Marc était an France, j'aurais fais tout pour le visiter.
Thank you, Marc. I wish I could have helped you the way you have helped me...
Sam
P.S. 1: (Rich) Mazda, if you are the one, thank you very much as well. Who cares about Chardonnay or Bordeaux.
P.S. 2: Stan, please don't perform 'The passenger' anymore. Your guitarist playing it without the heart, compassion, soul and technique of Marc almost made me sick
P.S. 3: Chas, if you were to come to Switzerland I would be very happy to host you. Just tell me.
P.S. 4: Of course P.S. 3 also applies to Fré, Bruce, Stan, Ned, Andy, Mrs Vieux and everyone who loved and loves WOV the way I did and do
I'm an italian radio d.j.,fan of WOV.I'm very sorry for death of
Marc.I'm near to his family.Ezio Degradi
I just received a cd of Marc Moreland Mess. It is so good.....it's so very Marc, his style still blows me away. What a subtle sense of humour he weaves into clever / original songs.
Buy this record!!!!!
Seriously...some of us paid a price. Was it worth it? How the fuck would I know?
Mazda
Well ...let's see now..since they would need at least an inch of hair from my head for the DNA test and my urine is pure Chardonnay I guess that leaves me pretty much in the clear with regard to the illegal. Next time you get out your ouija board tell Hoover whatever you like and as for Reagan even when he had a brain he didn't. I've said it before ..we consumed huge quantities of brain rotting goo goo muck, drank the levy dry and smoked Olympic quantities of Marlboro Reds and STILL made a great record! ...BUT kids do not try this at home, we were all crazy rock'n'roll guys who did'nt give a shit.
Mazda, are you admitting to illegal drug use....you'd better be careful, I'll report you to Ronald Reagan. BTW, what the hell happened to Seven Days in Sammystown? It sounds sort of muddy. Was it mixed improperly or something? Call of the West sounded much more crisp.
Praying for remastered WOV albums...
Actually although you're all right to say that WOV circa 'Call' wouldn't have been the same without Chas and Joe it's pointless to speculate on who did what or what would have been if.... For example with regard to Lost Weekend I am pretty certain that Stan who was a big fan of Ray Milland and the film Lost Weekend was the heaviest influence on that particular song. However the arrangement was down to all of us and the manner in which that evolved is lost in countless six packs and an empty bag of Crystal Meth. As we say in England just let it lie and appreciate the guys for who they were and what we all did.
Mazda
My band and I cover Back In Flesh when we play live. Last time we did we dedicated it in the memory of Marc Moreland, the man who inspired me to get a guitar in the first place.
without Chas, you wouldn't have Another Lost Weekend.
Its amazing how each memeber of WOV was able to inspire the music.
Yeah, Chas is underappreciated. Without Chas ane Joe, I think WOV would have had a less interesting, more traditional country/western sound. Does he still play music?
Anton here -
Warning! Whatcha bin Smokin is a right hand of Osama bin Laden
Hey Movie Downloader! Whatcha bin Smokin'?
so sorry to hear of marc passing away. i must have been about 10 years old when i found 'call of the west' lurking in my dad's record collection. i love it just as much 15 years on. they were such an incredible band and marc's guitar playing was so inspirational to me that i just can't put it into words how much it meant. thanks so much richard leeds uk xx
What??!!
where can i download movies fullie if so reply neeedo
Having been off-planet for a while, I only just recently heard about Marc passing over - a heckuva loss for us lot Down Here but what a gain for Them Upstairs. Having hung out a bit with WOV in the late Eighties in UK and the States, I got to know what great characters they were as people, as well as great musos. Certainly brightened up many a depressed life in the dark, dim days of Thatcherist England. I remember those brilliant gigs at the Lyceum, Camden Palace, Lees Cliff Pavilion in Folkestone...and the rest. I remember my old mate Phil getting Marc so drunk before a gig at Preston Clouds that he could hardly get on stage. Crazy days - and I guess we all paid a price. Not everyone survived. And the hospitality you guys showed me in the States - I shall always be grateful. It was wonderful to meet Joe and Gail-Gayle-Gaile(?) Nanini at the Al's Bar gig in LA way back when - lovely people. My heart goes out to both Gail-Gayle-Gaile and to Frederique. I know what it's like to lose your primary soulmate, but I also know they are never really gone, just moved to a different level. And I send lots of love and cyberhugs to Bruce, Chas, Andy, Ned, Stan, Mazda, Scottish Don and all the rest of the surviving WOV family who may or may not remember me from the WOV salad days...which feel like a lifetime ago, but then again feel like only yesterday.
Loadsa love to you all from Jenni Iguana...
jenniguana@earthdome.com
PS Aussie Dave is right, there are lots of WOV fans scattered about here in the Land of Oz..so if any WOV members in any of their current incarnations wanna come on Down Under, we've just love to see and hear you. Anytime.
PPS Didn't Stiv Bators (Lords of the New Church) die in Paris too??
Anton,
Yes, Andy played keyboards live occasionally, though I don't remember on which songs. Bruce also got behind the keyboard now and then live.
Ms. V
Anton here -
Thanks, Mike!
Hey Chas...thought you were deep in the jungle, Cheers M'dear Mazda
Live shows, STAN played guitar during LOST WEEKEND & keyboards on MEXICAN RADIO. I don't remember if ANDY played any keyboards live. He didn't stand still for too long in concert.
Mike
Anton here -
Could you tell me whether Stan or Andy played keyboards (or other instruments) during live-shows. Or they used to play only during studio sessions? The question came up after watching through the photoes on this site.
Hey Jake - thabks for the kind words. There's Still life at Museums. Chas T. Gray
@simon
try your luck on Audiogalaxy. I have them when I am online, and a few others do as well.
Greetings,
Hungerhahn
What was the name of the porno movie that WOV performed. Back in the mid 80's I watched a movie that had to be them performing. It was a weird setting with them singing on a stage with a smoke machine and red lights surrounding. I happen to remember because my friends and I made comments at the time on why they needed the money.
Just wondering
Ed
Hi!
I was very happy when I found some old songs of WOV I didn´t know be-
fore. I found them on the site www.wallofvoodoo.cjb.net, but now it
seems that this site no longer exists.. Where can I find the songs of
that site? Mail to: Sialpe@Web.de
Thanx Simon
Hi everybody!
Does somebody know, where I can get a Poster of Wov? I´m searching a
poster from the cover of Call of the west and the band in front.....
Mail to: Sialpe@Web.de
Thanks a lot! Simon
Hey, my band is DEEPLY influenced by Wall Of Voodoo. My band's called Galaxy Toybox, we're on mp3.com. Feel free to have a listen. I suggest "Sci-Fi Movie" and "Zombification" have the rings of Wall Of Voodoo. I do the singing in those songs, I'm also the drummer. By the way, what is Chas T. Gray up to these days? He was always my favorite in Wall Of Voodoo. I loved the way he played the synthesizer, he was really good at what he did. If anyone knows how to contact him, tell me, or tell him that a guy named Jake is his biggest fan! Tell him everybody here still loves Wall Of Voodoo and loves him too. After all, no Chas Gray, no WOV. Have a good day my fellow Wall Of Voodooites!
A Wall Of Voodoo Fan
P.S.
And maybe we will get lucky and a someone will be so infulenced by the guys in WOV that they will start to play and start a band. And then we get a chance to hear some new songs that ring with the sounds of WOV.
Its all apples and oranges anyway.
It doesn't matter how you get the music. Ebay and used CD's have no life to give to the artist's. And MP3's are no worse. All of us would like money. But for most artist's, the fact that you want to hear their stuff is even greater.
I say share, swap, download, buy, burn, tape, give...whatever it takes to keep interest in the songs, bands, songwriters and so on, alive. Just do it, listen and pass it on.
And needless to say, BUYING stuff from a band ist a question of belief,
as long as it is possible to do so.
I hope you all did not get me wrong.
I only recommended Audiogalaxy to Anton because the CD's are impossible
to get in Germany. In Russia it should be even more so.
Of course, I prefer BUYING the Albums rather than downloading them.
Greetings by Hungerhahn from Germany
ya know its funny..but when these radio dweebs get enough calls, they play the song.
let's all call!
davis bouie (i am a dj ..i am what i play..)
Telephone for KPPC in Pasadena: They Play Voodoo, and Stan etc... and they need top playt more!
KPPC REQUEST LINE: 626-585-7000
in LOS ANGELES CALL for Marc, Voodoo, Andy, Stan songs etc... hey! they should play this stuff cuz it serves "the public"...radio needs to BE TOLD BY THE LISTENERS!:
KCRW:
(310) 450 - 5183
KXLU:
(310) 338 - 5958
Anybody else got some numbers to call?? Post them here for the USA and it'll be a good thing!! RADIO PLAY FOR VOODOO!!!!
This is the best idea yet. Call your radio and request the songs. And not just the hits. Radio sucks and they need to hear from us.
CD's and Airplay
When WOV signed there deal with IRS, no one even new what a CD was at the time. And it wasn't included on the deal. IRS records went under a few years ago... I think the guys in WOV were able to choke a few bucks from those carpet baggers. The CD's that we buy are old stock sitting around in warehouses of the distributors. When the boys in WOV get a check, its for the music getting played. Everytime Weird Science shows on TV, they get something. Every time Mexican Radio, or Far Side of Crazy plays, they get something. So, call a radio station and request a WOV song. That will help put some change in the boys pockets.
I sincerely apologize Anton. You are right. I should have known the situation there in Moscow would be difficult to buy cds by probably anyone that is not mainstream fare. Wall of Voodoo is not exactly Celine Dion are there? I plead ignorannce and once again please accept my apologies for such a remark. Best to you.
stupid raplh nader
Anton back again -
I'm not sure that it is a right way to indulge a person with such an "advice" not knowing all of this person's problems, clever ralph nader
Anton from Moscow here -
Yes! Surely I preffer to buy disks! But there is a great problem to do that in Moscow and even in Paris (my wife couldn't do that).
I ordered only two available disc through out russian shop - Call of the West (already got it) and Index Masters (in the process of delivery). So do not worry - I clearly understand that musicians get payed for it.
The problem is that WOV is not popular and widely known in Russia. The _o_n_l_y_ problem
Yes,...with no one buying anything from the artists anymore...how will they ever make anymore music?..what a drag. Too bad people don't get it yet. If I really like an artist I go buy their stuff cuz I know it helps them make more.
ralph nader
they'd probably love it if you actually BOUGHT some of their music...they still get paid on those tunes ya know. Audio galaxy is cool to check stuff out with - BUT if you really like Wall Of Voodoo, BUY a CD of theirs and then they get something from it...dunno if you can buy stuff in Moscow?...
Anton from Moscow here -
Thanks for the adresses with mp3. Anyway my wife returned back from France with two CD-R's with the whole collection of WOV music from audiogalaxy :)))
The idea of All of Voodoo members tribute to Marc (and Joe either) is beautiful. I wonder if Stan, Andy, Bruce, Chas, Ned and Richard would agree.
Toby here -
Mazda... keep em coming... You are the man!!!
Marc Stories:
Through the time that I was working with Voodoo and afterwards there were many funny and touching moments, it's hard to catch the sense of those moments but I'll try anyway. While we were recording 'Call of The West' almost all of the guitar solos were recorded in total darkness with all the lights in the studio turned off. Naturally we needed to have some lights in the control room which would have meant that Marc would have been able to see us but we couldn't see him. Exchanges between Marc and me over the talkback often went something like this.
RM: "Are you ready Marc?"..........
ten seconds would then pass...
RM: "Marc?"...
more passage of time..
RM: "Er...Marc"
two seconds..
MM: "Richard?"
RM: "Yeah?"
MM: "Are you going to be a pinecone later?"
It was several weeks before he explained that he was referring to my preference for smoking large amounts of Californian sensi which the Hit City West Studios' owner Jason Bell used to provide for me for free. I asked him "Why do you keep asking me if I'm going to be a pinecone?" He eventually told me that after getting high I would ebb and flow with the seasons..opening and closing like a pinecone. A Very Dry Wit indeed..still missing him
MAZDA
Hello all,
The Department of Crooks CD is now available to buy thanks to Lisa Dewey of Kitchen Whore Records. You can buy "Plan 9 From Las Vegas" as well as Marc's new solo CD "Take it to the Spotlight" at cdBaby.com. All the proceeds from the DoC cd will go to Sheldon and Freddy. So pop on over to cdBaby and get your own while they last!
Rock on,
Ms. Vieuxdo
Hello, Does anyone know where I can find out about Marc Moreland's old songs with the Skulls, and Sky people from the 70's ?
email at joeoverhere@yahoo.com
Hey,
I read at the bottom of the most recent "tribute to marc" link, that they are going to re-release the Department of Crooks CD.
is that true? does anyone know if thats just a roomer or is it fact?
Marc Tribute
I can't find the proper words to describe the feeling of loss or the void that follows a sudden loss of someone who had so much creative influence on so many. I myself have enjoyed his work for more than 20 years and appreciate every minute of it.
Thanks Marc..........
I just read of Marc's passing in Rolling Stone today and was deeply saddened by the loss. I was lucky enough to see Marc in '85 at the Back Room in Austin with WoV and then a couple of years ago with Pretty & Twisted in Tempe, AZ. I got to spend some time with Marc after the show and found him to be a humble, gentle soul with interesting insights into music and the world, in general. His playing on Sammystown opened up a whole new genre of music for me, teaching me that a Western sound can be comforting and warm like the country music of my youth while simultaneously being dark and forboding. I followed Marc's art with interest and affection. His sounds and his presence made the world richer. He will be forever missed. Rob Neely, Glendale, AZ
HELLO,
MY NAME IS OKTAY AND ONE OF MY FRIEND IN PARIS WHO WORKED WITH MARC,
TOLD ME THE TRAGIC NEWS. I D'LIKE DISCUSSING WITH SOME GUY WHO KNOWS MARC
AND THE JUNGLE OF BAND OF THE 80'S KNOWN AND UNKNOWN.
I STILL A CRAZY FAN FOREVER.
BEST REGARDS
OKTAY
Never having checked out this site before, I only heard the sad news day before yesterday when Freddy emailed me. On behalf of the scattered Glasgow haggisheads who met Marc and the band twenty years ago and kept in touch with him here and there since then, we'll always remember Marc's hospitality, generosity, and humour. He was a lovely guy, and we'll miss his presence in the world.
John in NYC
scrien@earthlink.net
MARC & CHAS with THE SKULLS
For such a long time now, this web site was devouted to our constant attention on Marcs health and the need for all of our prayers to be made hoping that Marc would improve and get healthy...and we made those prayers.
I was hoping that it would all be back to normal somehow, knowing he received his much needed transplant and that this site would once read " Marc has made a full recovery and is coming home to the states to celebrate, and all of us are invited to be with him" , kind of thing. I have cherished the music of Wall of Voodoo since 1980 when I was 13yrs old and to this day it has not left me. it saddens me deeply to learn of his passing even though I never knew him. I guess it shows us that time is short and we have to do what we can with the life we are given. Marc certainly made a place for himself and by the looks of this site, touched thousands of people who knew him, albeit in music only. thanks to jtl and everyone beh